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-with the current levels of comics readership. Thor then defeats her with relative ease. The two beings are nearly matched, with Thor’s hammer giving him the ability to go toe-to-toe against the somewhat stronger Superman. He was said to burst forth from his great hall in his chariot, drawn by two male goats – Tanngnjóstr (Tooth Gnasher) and Tanngrísnir (Snarl Tooth) – who could be killed and eaten by the god and then brought b… It would be easier than keeping my sparse notes and putting the comic shop dude on the spot, that’s for sure. It didn’t sell because it wasn’t really Thor. The thunder god falls quickly, leaving the Void to continue his rampage around the Earth, killing every hero and villain he comes across. I think the cancellation of Thor: TMA has much less to do with event-based marketing or an inability to recognize quality on the part of the readership as it does with the glut of Thor titles currently being released by Marvel. The first arc of the reimagining shows how the team, made up of Thor, Captain America, Giant Man, the Wasp, Iron Man, and the Hulk come together as they face off against an alien invasion. Therefore the good thing about the collected edition is about to be released… so lament it now but PUSH THE HECK OUT OF IT. Still, despite Thor’s awesome might, Superman lands the finishing blow, leaving him exhausted, as he admits that Thor was one of the toughest opponents he’s ever faced. The Sentry, who quickly adopts his personality of the Void, easily lays waste to all the heroes who have assembled, including Thor. If Rachel freaking Ray can get her magazine on the check out counter then what the hell is wrong with us?!?”. You have to get them where kids and people that buy things for kids can buy them. Frigga later gave birth to her and Odin's son Thor who would eventually become the God of Thunder. The two have clashed multiple times, though neither tends to unleash his full power. Transformed into a cyborg-like creature by his people the Korbinites to become their champion and protect them from those who would do them harm, Beta Ray Bill’s strength is matched only by his sense of honor and compassion. Answered June 5, 2019 In Norse mythology Thor is killed after his battle with the World Serpent, Jormungandr. The racks are literally overstuffed with recent comics which look like no one is buying because they’re usually falling all over the floor, at least at the Borders they are. It wasn’t a good idea. After a while, it seemed like Walt Simonson’s storyline was running out of steam and I stopped buying it. The comic began with Thor’s reappearance on Earth after a thousand-year absence, enabling the creators to chronicle the thunder god’s first meetings with friends and foes ranging from Jane Foster and Captain Britain to Hank Pym and Mr. Hyde. I want them. The industry needs to focus less on mass producing hot dogs and aim for more gourmet level quality product. In the 2003 series “JLA/Avengers” by Kurt Busiek, however, Thor becomes that obstacle. Just playing devil’s advocate here, kids are into playing their video games; whether it’s on the wii (sp? Hie’s a Kiwi, but don’t hold that against him. After beating Captain America, Tigra and Iron Man, Ghost Rider squares off against Thor. It's because that Thor isn't the original Thor. Aside from the Fantastic Four, I haven’t bought any of the big titles from Marvel. And frankly I’ve stopped looking for Marvel books to buy because I refuse to pay 3.99 for 22 pages of story. “Those spinner racks have been replaced by the tablets and smart phones in your backpacks and pockets.”. New stories, new format, possible trade collection. It didn’t sell, because the editors behind the book thought it would be a good idea to do a visual re-design on the character. Long story short, Loki tricks the two heroes into doing battle. But they sell to the direct market fanboys and direct market fanboys are pretty limited in taste. Some might have seen it as a all-ages adventure title, but at its heart Thor:TMA was a romance book. I had no idea this book existed until a couple weeks ago when Comics Alliance did that round up of the 6 or 7 Thor books on the stands. BTW, the kittens don’t take the sting out of this news either. Oh well. Since the sales are at the bottom of the charts, release the digital copy the same day as the paper copy. Not a human. No? An ad in previews and an article on Newsarama or CBR just doesn’t cut it anymore. I know this makes me sound quite namby-pamby and I’m just fine with that. But here in the world, I can buy Archie at the drug store. Ghost Rider, otherwise known as the Spirit of Vengeance, is a being of frightening might. In issue #9, during a climactic battle between the Avengers and the Masters of Evil, Wonder Man gets the upper hand on Thor, sucker punching him and knocking him into a big hole. Oftentimes without a limit to his profound strength, it’s uncommon for Superman to ever experiences a defeat, much less a challenge. Your best blog post this year, especially your answer to that rhetorical question those of us who fell in love with TTMA asked after hearing the news. I think Shannon’s point is that in many places, comics aren’t sold in the same avenues as before and that’s the reason why more kids aren’t into them. Before he can deliver the final blow, Loki manipulates reality to the point where Thor loses all his powers. Despite the decades they’ve had to sort it out, fans of the characters, and the heroes themselves, rarely discover an answer. The grocery stores in Angelica, Belmont, and Fillmore NY all stopped carrying comics back around 1996. I have never heard of Roger Langridge. I want more “Fred the Clown,” but I also want Mr. Landridge to earn that huge Marvel paycheck. Thor protests, telling Odin that killing Hela will have disastrous consequences for humanity. About midway through the fight, the Hulk realizes the edge Mjonir gives Thor and tricks the God of Thunder into throwing his hammer away. Recently, it seemed like there were SCADS of THOR comics. Nobody believed in the show except Dish Network. Poor marketing. As many people here have already stated, push the good books like you believe in them. In fact, Thor gets beaten numerous times throughout the 12-issue event, unable to stand up to the immense power of the Phoenix. Hopefully all of them. A few years later its on NBC primetime and selling DVD’s and netflix streaming. Though not knocked out, Thor is temporarily removed from the fight. So how do you provide accessible books? Back in 2012, Marvel’s event “Avengers vs. X-Men” featured the Phoenix, one of the mightiest cosmic forces in the universe, heading to Earth. Harsh! Allegedly, Marvel (and DC etc.) However, Thor has never shied away from a fight, whether his opponents be man, demon, or god. Let us know in the comments! Now it’s canceled again? Ever heard of ‘friday night lights’? I’m pretty sure I just accurately described Marvel in the 90’s. Or record shows to Tivo? Despite the God of Thunder’s pleas, Odin kills Hela. It’s been the weekly mini-series, Marvel Adventures, Super Hero Squad… the stuff that’s fun and enticing and accessible, and which usually charts below 20K on the sales charts. From July 2009 to February 2010, the iTunes store sold two billion songs. Another "What If?" It was a Thor-like character that didn’t look much like Thor. There’s plenty more kids looking for comics but this industry can’t find them. This is the type of material they have trained the audiences to look for. The problem with TTMA has nothing to do with any of the other Thor books out there. During the “Original Sin: Thor and Loki” storyline, Thor discovers he has a sister who had been kept secret from him. ), XBox or whatever other gaming system they use. In fact, two of the supermarkets use comic spinner racks and the other supermarket just puts the comics in the kids section of the magazine aisle. You do more books like TTMA, but don’t sell them like orphans and don’t put them up against ten other titles featuring the same character. Even so, the symbiote, sensing the thunder god’s power, abandons the Hulk and tries to bond with Thor. Would that be possible? A book this highly lauded, this highly regarded gets a stay of the ax. It’s perfectly normal to have no fewer than 5 or 6 “events” launching the same month, all promising NEW DIRECTIONS, BOLD STORYTELLING, taking you PLACES YOU’D NEVER BEEN, showing THINGS YOU’VE NEVER SEEN!!!! A one-stop shop for all things video games. I’m sure they’ll find more work soon, but it’s a shame that a book like this can’t rack up a good two-to-ten year run in the current comics market. YOU did. The two have clashed multiple times; sometimes in friendly sport, while other instances have been more serious. Towards the end of Avengers: Infinity War, it is only Thor who comes close to killing Thanos. 2) Even if those things are a given, they are a long way from cheap or free. With four, five, or more distinct Thor titles, all with different takes and settings, all diluting the renewed interest in Thor, it’s no wonder that gems like TMA have such lousy sales. (Heck, “license” it to Disney Publishing, and let them market the book like they’re marketing the Tron prequel!). As hard as this is to accept, there isn’t anything currently published that’s drawing them into the few shops that do have them available. Heidi MacDonald is an award-winning editor/journalist with 20 years. Of course, you know this also feeds into the theory that fans on the internets are just 10 people using a bunch of different usernames. People who order – stores and customers – Marvel product are fed up with the volume of material Marvel dumps on the direct market each month. Potentially the strongest non-cosmic superhero in any universe, Superman has defeated gods, demigods, aliens, giant robots…the list goes on. That’s where we’ve gotten, folks. iTunes and iPods proved this. The symbiote quickly leaves a withered/drained Peter Parker and tries to bond with the Hulk. Not me, sister! A new character at the time, writers needed a way to demonstrate the power of the new Hulk. They will not publish an original graphic novel. Thor was last seen during Ragnarok (a period of time when many Norse gods died), when he was killed by Jormungand, the Midgard Serpent. But he showed his ambitions to go cosmic in a short story tacked onto the end of Thor #2, depicting an … Now, if that square footage can generate greater profits selling something else, the store will probably replace that spinner rack. It’s utterly expected. At some point Marvel needs to look at it’s self in the mirror and say, “Dangit, we’re Marvel Comics. (Marvel also linked the series to the Marvel Adventures titles, so it showed up on the “next issue” page of those comics.). When the Roman calander was adopted by the Anglo Saxans they named the fifth day of the week "Thursday" after Thor. Scurrying out of range of the hammer’s throw, just as the hammer begins its journey back to Thor, Ghost Rider takes hold of the hammer and rides the momentum, crashing into Thor. And the snake continues to swallow its tail and the same arguments happen over and over again. When the two first met, yet another misunderstanding occurs and they fight. It leaves not only retailers confused but particularly readers who don’t know what to order when faced with a Marvel Previews with over a hundred new offerings. This is the marketplace Marvel and DC have created over the last six years. This was my favorite Marvel book, hands-down. She cohosts Publishers Weekly’s graphic novel podcast More to Come. “Except spinner racks don’t have a $50-$500 entry fee”, They do to most stores. Comics are only sold at Comic Shops and the kids I gave comics to at Halloween (had over 50 kids show up) are interested and would buy them: I saw Roger Landridge’s name on the cover and said “Ooo. Then the unthinkable happens, Beta Ray Bill picks up the hammer. Even though they clownishly half-ass it whenever they try to gain new readers, Marvel does try it occasionally. Jaded, decadent unable to feel or laugh. That is, until Thor throws his hammer. The fight lasts most of the issue until Hercules beats Thor in a decisive victory. The new Avengers team, made up of X-Men and Avengers alike, quickly arrives to do battle with the Skull and his minions. I remember buying THOR #337, the “Ballad of Beta Ray Bill,” and purchasing the book regularly for about a year or so. Enter your email address to subscribe to this blog and receive notifications of new posts by email. At this period in the Ultimate universe, the heroes still have trouble believing Thor is a god, which Loki exploits by using his magic to swell that doubt, leaving the thunder god with little choice but to battle his friends. Rates are available upon request. My local comics shop (Forbidden Planet) shelves just about every Marvel and DC comic published. They’ll probably see the decline in magazine sales, cut back on titles, and shelve the comics with the magazines. I know this is an old thread, but I just saw it and wanted to correct a big misconception being perpetrated here: This Thor book didn’t sell because it was an all-ages/done-in-one book. I have to admit, this was me. Really? Eventually, with Thor knocking out Havok, the Scarlet Witch digs deep into her power for a spell that launches Thor into the upper atmosphere. The two heroes are blasting Thor will all their considerable might, but it’s only slowing him down. It’s all messed up right now because every publisher pretty much has to serialize the graphic novel before collecting it as a trade before they can get it out of the Direct Sales Market into B&N or Borders or Amazon. (errrrr…jk) I’ll look out for their future work for sure. Thor, while an interesting character, simply can’t support anywhere near that many concurrent titles. Two of the mightiest superheroes on Earth, their fights often lead to the destruction of entire towns and cities. Is it worth trying? Thor has traded blows with as many heroes as villains. That bookshelf costs money, and you can fill it with free content, or buy titles. If they had done exactly the same stories, but actually used the real characters– you know, the Thor designed by Jack Kirby– it would have sold. Who will be killed off in Avengers: Endgame? That bring us to “The Avengers” #214. I’ve bought them for my daughter. This can become… silly. It comes as no surprise then that she can take on Thor. Also, Roger Langridge has been a consistently good storyteller since his “Knnuckles the Maelvolent Nun” days. Many times, whenever Thor experiences a loss, it’s because someone was able to outwit him or on account of superficial circumstances or his opponent was a tiny bit stronger than him. What kind of marketing was done to tell retailers that this is a book that should be “pushed” to new readers? i may be going out on a limb, but i feel that folks who read the beat and its ilk arent really the ones killing it…who knows though. Decent sales by the standards of Marvel’s all-ages books. 2 THE HULK One of the greatest rivalries in all of comics, the Incredible Hulk and the Mighty Thor have been at odds for years, forever determined to prove who is stronger. It worked pretty well from 2001 through 2006, before short-term greed became, once again, the driving force of your business models. Loki isn’t Thor’s only sibling. Thor and Beta Ray Bill would go on to become blood brothers. If you haven’t ordered it, order it! I bought all the issues (except for the one with Captain Britain, which was sold out at my LCS)! With startling psychic power at his disposal, the Red Skull exercises his telepathy by throwing New York into chaos. He battled the serpent Jörmungandr during Ragnarok. Or use an Android or Blackberry phone? Whatever little pockets may still exist, the grocery store spinner rack has disappeared from the isles. It’s great to make kids comics. I’m a Marvel bottom feeder. For the record, I don’t make those decisions. (Wikipedia has a longer timeline.) Bruce Banner isn’t the only Hulk to have faced the thunder god. Cmon. People clearly pick and choose but they FOCUS on the core titles and the event books. “I hope he gets some more work from them because he’s probably the best white guy creator out there.” Please explain? The current comics readership is too small to support the market. You are competing one on one with a zillion other similarly marketed projects. Despite her attention to protocol, she was a loving and tender mother to both her sons. Enter Thor. Kids like the consistency of a series or at least for the format to look the same from book to book. Bitter with the taste of defeat, they experimented on poor Simon Williams, turning him into Wonder Man. Not sure what the strategy is there other than to have the most recent movie star on the cover but there has not been much consistency with it. Reading The Beat’s and Torsten’s comments… yeah, a same day digital version would be pimp. #200, it’s explained that killing Ares on the field of battle tired the Sentry to the point where he could be hurt. Later in “The Mighty Thor” #338, Odin pits Thor and Beta Ray Bill against one another to determine who should wield the hammer. 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It makes me uncomfortable to look at it. Cell phones, tablets, computers, televisions… they all have the same cost. Schools, libraries, families and in particular KIDS want book format comics to take home and read, they do not gravitate towards monthly comics nor do they generally shop at direct market outlets. We have the full and terrible power of Disney. But Thor didn't know that. 1) We should remember for a moment that most people are not Savvy Internet People, so smartphones/tablets + high-speed Internet connections are not a given. Along the way, the Hulk is among the first to encounter it. You have to get them where kids and people that buy things for kids can buy them.”, I handed out comic books (all age books, Archie Digests) along with candy at Halloween this year. Ghost Rider departs the field of battle, leaving Thor with the wind knocked out of him. Originally in “Siege,” Thor’s power was the decisive factor in putting down the Sentry, but in "What if?" 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